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    Ezra Levant vs the CBSC

    Ezra Levant is not happy with a ruling from the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council (http://www.ccnr.ca/english/decisions/2012/120613.php) What he didn't know is that SUN "News" Network is a VOLUNTARY MEMBER of the CBSC and that Quebecor spends thousands of dollars to fund the CBSC.

    His "interview" (well if you consider yelling insults at your guest an interview) with Troy Reeb, member of the CBSC and VP of an actual news organization, can be found here.

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2012/06/20120614-185253.html

    It's amazing to see Troy keep his cool as this lunatic hurls insult after insult at him. Is Ezra like this with all his guests?

    Fortunately this disgrace to journalism is also losing money, hopefully Quebecor shuts it down soon.

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    This isn't very surprising coming from the self-righteous pompous pimple on the ass of Canadian journalist. At least it's better than him running federally for the Conservatives and becoming a highly incompetent cabinet minister along with the likes of Bev Oda and Vic Toews. ;) I'd rather have him on a channel that has very little impact on the lives of most Canadians than being involved in making highly divisive decisions that are opposed by the majority of Canadians.

    I've watched that interview yesterday and I feel like it's 15 minutes of my life that I'm never going to get back. Ezra makes repeated claims that their station was forced by the CRTC to submit to the broadcasting standards set out by the CBSC. Nothing can be further from the truth, once again, Sun News is misrepresenting the facts to its liking. The offending passage in their license states:
    The Commission notes that the applicant stated that it would accept the standard conditions of licence for competitive mainstream national news services set out in Broadcasting Regulatory Policy 2009-562-1, including the conditions requiring a licensee to adhere to the various industry codes relating to broadcast standards. The Commission also notes that the applicant will be subject to various industry codes, including the RTNDA Code of Journalistic Ethics and the Journalistic Independence Code, as a member of the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council. Finally, the Commission notes that the applicant is no longer requesting an exception to Broadcasting Regulatory Policy 2009-562-1 in the form of mandatory access rights.
    I fail to see how this can be spun as the CRTC is forcing Sun News to adhere to the CBSC's standards. From my understanding of the English language, the word accept means to give an affirmative reply to a statement. In the context of the license, Sun News had an opportunity to decline to be subjected by the CBSC, but instead, they choose to voluntarily submit to the self-regulating body. I suppose it's already too late for the station to remove itself from the CBSC as it made a decision to be a part of it until its license is renewed.

    On another note, I find Ezra's argument that he should be allowed to state the highly offending phrase on television to be highly absurd and to some extent, hypocritical. In the interview, he made comparisons to his ability to say the offending phrase and the presence of the f-word on Trailer Park Boys and calling it "Shaw Media entertainment standards". As far as I'm aware, Shaw had nothing to do with the production of the show, the show airs at a time where such offending comments are allowed, and in no way does Trailer Park Boys attempts to call itself a news or opinion based program. The argument falls flat on its feet. I do wonder whether this segment was censored on Sun when it aired, or I can see the station being subject to more decision from the CBSC.

    I really do have to laugh at Ezra calling himself a defender of free speech or something like that. Apparently telling people to "eff their mothers" in a foreign language is defending free speech. I wasn't aware of that. Apparently to the bright folks at Sun News, insulting a person's mother is an example of journalistic integrity and they should be allowed to do so under the Charter. While the Charter may protect such unethical outbursts, in no way should a real journalist utter these slurs to the people they're interviewing. It just shows a great blatant lack of disrespect to the art of journalism. At this point, I suspect the people at TMZ would have more ethics and respect for journalism than Ezra Levant. What a sad, sad man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    It's amazing to see Troy keep his cool as this lunatic hurls insult after insult at him. Is Ezra like this with all his guests?
    Ezra Levant is a Jewish version of Glen Beck. And like Beck, I wouldn't be surprised he compared himself to Howard Beale.

    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    Fortunately this disgrace to journalism is also losing money, hopefully Quebecor shuts it down soon.
    I dunno about you, but I hope funding this channel drains Quebecor of all of its money, and ends Pierre Karl Péladeau rain of terror. One can only hope :)
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    No matter how hard Levant tries, he can't make the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council interesting.
    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    It's amazing to see Troy keep his cool as this lunatic hurls insult after insult at him.
    Sucking up?
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    hopefully Quebecor shuts it down soon.
    I wouldn't have thought you'd want people in the business to lose their jobs.
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    I find Ezra's argument that he should be allowed to state the highly offending phrase on television to be highly absurd and to some extent, hypocritical.
    How is it hypocritical?
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    Ezra Levant is a Jewish version of Glen Beck.
    Your point being?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan View Post
    I wouldn't have thought you'd want people in the business to lose their jobs?
    I don't care if people with no journalistic standards lose their jobs, and clearly nobody at SUN has any journalistic standards, because if they did they wouldn't be working there.

    That being said, i'm surprised that someone like you who was totally against something that at the time was necessary to save thousands of jobs now all of a sudden cares about people in the television industry. You didn't once mention all the local television employees who would be out of work when you were spewing lies and trying to discredit a campaign to save their jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emarsee View Post
    This isn't very surprising coming from the self-righteous pompous pimple on the ass of Canadian journalist. At least it's better than him running federally for the Conservatives and becoming a highly incompetent cabinet minister along with the likes of Bev Oda and Vic Toews. ;) I'd rather have him on a channel that has very little impact on the lives of most Canadians than being involved in making highly divisive decisions that are opposed by the majority of Canadians.

    I've watched that interview yesterday and I feel like it's 15 minutes of my life that I'm never going to get back. Ezra makes repeated claims that their station was forced by the CRTC to submit to the broadcasting standards set out by the CBSC. Nothing can be further from the truth, once again, Sun News is misrepresenting the facts to its liking. The offending passage in their license states:

    I fail to see how this can be spun as the CRTC is forcing Sun News to adhere to the CBSC's standards. From my understanding of the English language, the word accept means to give an affirmative reply to a statement. In the context of the license, Sun News had an opportunity to decline to be subjected by the CBSC, but instead, they choose to voluntarily submit to the self-regulating body. I suppose it's already too late for the station to remove itself from the CBSC as it made a decision to be a part of it until its license is renewed.

    On another note, I find Ezra's argument that he should be allowed to state the highly offending phrase on television to be highly absurd and to some extent, hypocritical. In the interview, he made comparisons to his ability to say the offending phrase and the presence of the f-word on Trailer Park Boys and calling it "Shaw Media entertainment standards". As far as I'm aware, Shaw had nothing to do with the production of the show, the show airs at a time where such offending comments are allowed, and in no way does Trailer Park Boys attempts to call itself a news or opinion based program. The argument falls flat on its feet. I do wonder whether this segment was censored on Sun when it aired, or I can see the station being subject to more decision from the CBSC.

    I really do have to laugh at Ezra calling himself a defender of free speech or something like that. Apparently telling people to "eff their mothers" in a foreign language is defending free speech. I wasn't aware of that. Apparently to the bright folks at Sun News, insulting a person's mother is an example of journalistic integrity and they should be allowed to do so under the Charter. While the Charter may protect such unethical outbursts, in no way should a real journalist utter these slurs to the people they're interviewing. It just shows a great blatant lack of disrespect to the art of journalism. At this point, I suspect the people at TMZ would have more ethics and respect for journalism than Ezra Levant. What a sad, sad man.
    Exactly. This just proves how little fact checking he does and how disorganized SUN really is. They let him go on and on and on ranting about how ridiculous the CBSC is and then he finds out on-air that Quebecor accepted to join and funds the CBSC. They let him go on-air attacking an organization his employer said they would join and fund. Any real news organization would be beyond embarrassed if on-air talent acted so foolish, SUN posts the clip on their website!

    Shaw had nothing to do with the production of The Trailer Park Boys, it was cancelled well before Shaw even purchased Canwest and repeats don't currently air on any Shaw Media channel (the show was almost entirely removed from the group of channels before Shaw’s purchase of Canwest was final), in fact Shaw Communications executives even criticized the program in the past. But even if it was a Shaw Media production, Ezra would be comparing apples to oranges, it's not a newscast airing in the afternoon, it is surrounded by viewer discretion advised warnings. The fact that Ezra and SUN staff didn't even bother to confirm the show was produced or funded by Shaw before they used it as an example of a "Shaw production" is just another example of what a joke this disgrace to journalism really is. They took the time to watch an episode and find a bunch of clips for broadcast but didn't have the time to check if the show was actually produced by Shaw.

    Not only would no news organization allow on-air talent to spew the offensive words Ezra did, but no news organization would allow on-air talent to treat any guest the way Ezra treated Mr Reeb. Any other news outlet would be horrified that their on-air talent said something so offensive on-air, SUN could care less. This is not journalism, this is trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    I don't care ...
    What about the behind-the-scenes workers (camera, lighting audio, ...)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan View Post
    What about the behind-the-scenes workers (camera, lighting audio, ...)?
    These people are working for a network that allows people like Ezra Levant to be rude and disrespectful to their guests, to go down to the CBC's building and harass CBC employess. People with morals shouldn't be okay working for a company like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    People with morals shouldn't be okay working for a company like that.
    I'm sure many of them are just trying to make a living for their family.

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    How is it hypocritical?
    The CBC porn incident comes to mind, Sun News (including Ezra) spent days attacking the CBC for supposedly airing a soft-core porn program on Radio Canada.

    I'm sure many of them are just trying to make a living for their family.
    Works both ways. I'm sure the people at the CBC are trying to make a living as well, and the fine folks at Quebecor seem to have no problem shutting it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan View Post
    Your point being?
    It isn't self explanatory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan View Post
    I'm sure many of them are just trying to make a living for their family.
    They can provide for their family by working at a respectable news outlet.

    If they think that this type of journalism is okay then they shouldn't be in this industry. Sorry but I don’t think a biased rude obnoxious cheap media outlet should exist just because it employs people. I don’t think they should be forced to shut down, but i’m not going to shed a tear if they don’t have success doing what they are doing.

    Quebecor could have launched a high quality respectable news channel, they made the decision to launch a dirt cheap biased disgrace to journalism instead. I would be thrilled if Quebecor shut down SUN News Network and launched a real news channel instead (which would employ more people than SNN currently does) You don’t have to be biased and rude to be different from CTV and CBC, but that's the way Quebecor went, and i'm not going to be sad if a biased and rude disgrace fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emarsee View Post
    The CBC porn incident comes to mind, Sun News (including Ezra) spent days attacking the CBC for supposedly airing a soft-core porn program on Radio Canada.
    I missed that whole "controversy," but I'd be very surprised if his criticisms were that the material should be prohibited. I would expect that he'd say that tax dollars shouldn't be paying for it.

    That's not hypocritical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    They can provide for their family by working at a respectable news outlet.
    Are there jobs waiting for them at these respectable news outlets?

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    I missed that whole "controversy," but I'd be very surprised if his criticisms were that the material should be prohibited. I would expect that he'd say that tax dollars shouldn't be paying for it.

    That's not hypocritical.
    Citytv and other television stations in Canada have been running softcore pornography for years without much complaints from the general public. If we can allow Ezra Levant to tell people to eff their mothers on television, why can't we have the CBC airing programming featuring nudity? Both have offended people and they are examples of free speech in action.


    The program in question, Hard features:
    some butt shots and a plotline about one of the main characters who has a penis that is "énorme" (you never see it), but you don't even see boobs. This would be tame by French standards. In fact, butt shots have appeared on standard broadcast television for decades (NYPD Blue, anyone?), and boobs go over on cable channels all the time. Actually, a very similar-sounding reality show, Family Business, aired on Showcase for three years.
    http://www.xtra.ca/blog/national/pos...t-have-to.aspx

    Apparently nothing pornographic at all. There are far more graphic and offensive programming on television. It just reeks of hypocrisy to be against some mild nudity and at the same time, for telling people to go eff their mothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan View Post
    Are there jobs waiting for them at these respectable news outlets?
    Well they did layoff people before launch, aka SUN_guy, and camera operators could find jobs in other fields such as scripted/reality series. Not to metion that automation is really more of a job killer than shutting down of a forgotten news channel. If anything the on-air talent will have harder time finding a job then the behind-the-scene staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emarsee View Post
    It just reeks of hypocrisy to be against some mild nudity and at the same time, for telling people to go eff their mothers.
    I'm pretty sure he isn't against nudity, just the CBC buying this show about a pornography studio. That's not hypocritical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan View Post
    I'm pretty sure he isn't against nudity, just the CBC buying this show about a pornography studio. That's not hypocritical.
    In what way is a show about a pornography studio any more offensive than telling someone to eff their mothers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emarsee View Post
    In what way is a show about a pornography studio any more offensive than telling someone to eff their mothers?
    I don't think anyone was comparing how much those two things would offend people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan View Post
    Are there jobs waiting for them at these respectable news outlets?
    It will depend on the position. Considering SNN is only a bit more than a year old it's very unlikely that any of these people had trouble finding some type of employment before they started working there.

    Again I find it hard to believe you really care about jobs when just a few years ago you were spewing lies and trying to discredit a campaign that at the time was necessary to save thousands of jobs for local television employees. You didn't once mention or even acknowledge how many jobs would be lost then, but now all of a sudden you care about people in the industry? If you really cared about industry jobs you wouldn't have acted the way you did. This just appears to be another example of you blindly defending SUN News Network.

    As I said earlier (which you appear to have ignored) I would love for Quebecor to launch a high quality respectful news channel, it's not like I want every single person who works there to become unemployed, I would just prefer to see a biased disrespectful news organization cease operations. The best case scenario in my opinion would be for Quebecor to shut down SNN and launch a real non-biased respectful news channel. SUN's 0.1% audience share should be a clear indication that biased news with moron personalities spewing their opinions is not working. Shut it down and launch a real news channel that people can be proud to work for.

 

 

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