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    ABC 2013-2014 pick-ups, cancellations and renewals

    'Agents of SHIELD' Picked up by ABC
    Written By Amanda Kondolojy, May 9th, 2013

    Marvel spin-off Agents of SHIELD has been picked up by ABC. The first promo for it is reported to air during the Once Upon A Time finale.

    Source : http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...by-abc/181851/
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    Final Episodes of '666 Park Avenue' & 'Zero Hour' to Air Saturdays on ABC

    Written By Sara Bibel
    May 20th, 2013

    Per TVLine, the final four episodes of 666 Park Avenue, which was canceled last fall, will air Saturday at 9PM from June 22 to July 13. 666 Park Avenue will have the burn off of another canceled series, Zero Hour, as its lead-in. Two episodes of Zero Hour will air from 8-10PM on June 15. It will then air Saturdays at 8PM from June 22 to August 3. ABC missed a golden opportunity to have a Saturday night line-up entirely of canceled shows with numbers in the title by relegating the unaired episodes of Don't Trust The B in Apartment 23 to ABC. com and other online streaming sites.

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    Careless bastards.
    Yesterday night, ABC have cut off the last 2 minutes of the series finale of 666 Park Avenue on the East Coast for a breaking news about some Zimmerman trial that nobody cares about... they couldn't wait one minute where they could have cut off the closing credits. Idiots.

    Citytv hasn't scheduled the last 4 episodes yet... so that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    Careless bastards.
    Yesterday night, ABC have cut off the last 2 minutes of the series finale of 666 Park Avenue on the East Coast for a breaking news about some Zimmerman trial that nobody cares about... they couldn't wait one minute where they could have cut off the closing credits. Idiots.

    Citytv hasn't scheduled the last 4 episodes yet... so that's it.

    It may not be a major story to most Canadians or someone who has opinions like you but the Zimmerman trial was a MAJOR story in the U.S. and expecting ABC to "wait" to cover breaking news like this while CBS and NBC are covering the story when it actually breaks is beyond absurd. Even if we ignore the fact that the Zimmerman trial attracted far more viewers than the cancelled show being burned off it's ridiculous to expect any network to cover breaking news the way you are suggesting. CBS and NBC both broke into regular programming to cover the verdict live as well. ABC would have looked really bad to be the only network to not cover the verdict live in favor of regular programming, especially if that regular programming is a cancelled show burn off.

    It's so amusing how you think any network that doesn't follow your baseless ideas must be idiots. Ever think the reason why most networks do the exact opposite of what you think they should do is not because they are "careless bastard idiots" or have a "ultimate goal to fail" but because they actually know how to properly run a network, as opposed to you who clearly does not and is under this delusion that everyone thinks the exact same way you do
    ? Ever think that maybe the networks don't use your ideas because your ideas aren't very smart? Instead of calling networks idiots every time they do something differently than what you would have done maybe you should re-think some of the "ideas" you have convinced yourself are what's best for all viewers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    It may not be a major story to most Canadians or someone who has opinions like you but the Zimmerman trial was a MAJOR story in the U.S. and expecting ABC to "wait" to cover breaking news like this while CBS and NBC are covering the story when it actually breaks is beyond absurd.
    When exactly did CBS and NBC cut from regular programming to cover this?

    CBS had 8pm Elementary rerun, 9pm 48 Hours, 10pm 48 Hours.
    NBC had 8pm NBC Movie, 10pm Get Out Alive pilot rerun...
    Global had a movie and opted not to simsub the Get Out Alive rerun.
    Fox had MLB special, with local news at 10pm.
    ABC had 8pm ALL-NEW episode of Zero Hour, 9pm ALL NEW series finale of 666 Park Avenue that will NEVER EVER AIR AGAIN, and 10pm 20/20.

    ABC was the only one with first-run burn-off episodes that night. CBS can easily rerun the 48 Hours episode, and NBC can easily air the movie again and air the Get Out Alive pilot again. Not the case for ABC unless the whole episode was pre-empted. They could have waited 15 or 30 seconds until the fade out to the executive producer's name. Anyways, on my VCR recording, there was a 5-sec countdown following the cut, and an introduction from a national ABC News anchor. It's not like they'd lose something big, like the suspect would run away, within those missing 15-30 seconds ! They cut away too early for no reason. Nothing was urgent.

    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    ABC would have looked really bad to be the only network to not cover the verdict live in favor of regular programming, especially if that regular programming is a cancelled show burn off.

    It's so amusing how you think any network that doesn't follow your baseless ideas must be idiots. Ever think the reason why most networks do the exact opposite of what you think they should do is not because they are "careless bastard idiots" or have a "ultimate goal to fail" but because they actually know how to properly run a network
    OK, now you're making me laugh en tabarnac que ša n'a pas d'ostie d'allure !
    - Everytime there was elections in BC and Alberta, you praised the local Global stations for covering the whole night and you carefully mention that local Citytv stations did NOTHING, business as usual, with a minimal effort from CTV.
    - When there was flood in Calgary, CICT-DT nixed the whole friday evening of reruns to cover this, and CIVT-DT (Global Edmonton) helped out, simulcasting the coverage.
    - When a train accident caused an explosion with a huge part of downtown Lac-Megantic destroyed in the night of friday to saturday, what was on the air on Global Montreal on saturday morning ? Regular programming as usual. And we both know why: CTV News Channel was covering it but not CFCF-DT, CBC News was covering it but not CBMT-DT. It's a tragedy that affects the community and Global Montreal wasn't there until the 6pm news. CKMI-DT is a money-losing station, and they're happy to lose money producing the low-rated morning news with benefit money (money they would have to spend anyway) and do nothing to improve its ratings.

    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    Ever think that maybe the networks don't use your ideas because your ideas aren't very smart? Instead of calling networks idiots every time they do something differently than what you would have done maybe you should re-think some of the "ideas" you have convinced yourself are what's best for all viewers.
    How come Global Montreal covering Lac-Megantic is a bad idea?
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    http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/tv-n...uilty-verdict/
    [Zimmerman trial verdict on Saturday ... Network programming interruptions and coverage]

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/...martin_b188110
    [George Zimmerman trial verdict coverage]

    The broadcast news divisions and cable news channels had been waiting all day for a verdict in the George Zimmerman trial. It finally came just before 10pm ET, leading the broadcast networks to produce rare, live, primetime special reports for the not guilty verdict.

    But one network, ABC News, began their special report too late and missed the verdict. ABC joined as the jurors were being polled. The network was showing the canceled “666 Park Avenue,” and even promoted the live verdict in a crawl.

    On NBC, Lester Holt anchored a special report, interrupting the final seconds of a made-for-TV movie based on the American Girl doll Saige. Holt took viewers to the verdict, seconds before it was being read. NBC’s report lasted until 10:08.

    CBS was first on the air at 9:58, joining during the closing credits of “48 Hours” in the Eastern and Central time zones. The Jim Axelrod-anchored special also went off the air at 10:08.

    Despite missing the verdict live, the timing for ABC could not have been better. The network already had “20/20″ on the schedule. The live special report anchored by David Muir began with the verdict then recounted the 16-month long case through the 10pm hour.
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    [QUOTE=InMontreal;63230]

    When exactly did CBS and NBC cut from regular programming to cover this?

    CBS had 8pm Elementary rerun, 9pm 48 Hours, 10pm 48 Hours.
    NBC had 8pm NBC Movie, 10pm Get Out Alive pilot rerun...
    Global had a movie and opted not to simsub the Get Out Alive rerun.
    Fox had MLB special, with local news at 10pm.
    ABC had 8pm ALL-NEW episode of Zero Hour, 9pm ALL NEW series finale of 666 Park Avenue that will NEVER EVER AIR AGAIN, and 10pm 20/20.

    ABC was the only one with first-run burn-off episodes that night. CBS can easily rerun the 48 Hours episode, and NBC can easily air the movie again and air the Get Out Alive pilot again. Not the case for ABC unless the whole episode was pre-empted. They could have waited 15 or 30 seconds until the fade out to the executive producer's name. Anyways, on my VCR recording, there was a 5-sec countdown following the cut, and an introduction from a national ABC News anchor. It's not like they'd lose something big, like the suspect would run away, within those missing 15-30 seconds ! They cut away too early for no reason. Nothing was urgent.
    You just don't get it. When a breaking news story is important enough for the network to interrupt regular programming (and this story was to Americans) it doesn't matter what the regular programming is.

    OK, now you're making me laugh en tabarnac que ša n'a pas d'ostie d'allure !
    - Everytime there was elections in BC and Alberta, you praised the local Global stations for covering the whole night and you carefully mention that local Citytv stations did NOTHING, business as usual, with a minimal effort from CTV.
    - When there was flood in Calgary, CICT-DT nixed the whole friday evening of reruns to cover this, and CIVT-DT (Global Edmonton) helped out, simulcasting the coverage.
    - When a train accident caused an explosion with a huge part of downtown Lac-Megantic destroyed in the night of friday to saturday, what was on the air on Global Montreal on saturday morning ? Regular programming as usual. And we both know why: CTV News Channel was covering it but not CFCF-DT, CBC News was covering it but not CBMT-DT. It's a tragedy that affects the community and Global Montreal wasn't there until the 6pm news.

    I'm not sure why you are bringing up what happened in Lac-Megantic but i'm not surprised that despite the fact all 4 conventional stations in Montreal (CTV, Global, CBC, Citytv) broadcast regular programming you are only criticizing one for doing so, the one struggling the most financially.



    CKMI-DT is a money-losing station, and they're happy to lose money producing the low-rated morning news with benefit money (money they would have to spend anyway) and do nothing to improve its ratings.

    This is what's so amusing about you. If they don't do what you think they should do they must be "happy to lose money", they don't go with your ideas so they must be doing "nothing to improve ratings", ABC doesn't wait to cover breaking news so they must be "Careless bastard idiots". Basically, any broadcaster that does something you personally disagree with is run by idiots trying to lose money, you are welcome to your opinion but comments like these are why I never take you seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    Careless bastards.
    Yesterday night, ABC have cut off the last 2 minutes of the series finale of 666 Park Avenue on the East Coast for a breaking news about some Zimmerman trial that nobody cares about... they couldn't wait one minute where they could have cut off the closing credits. Idiots.

    Citytv hasn't scheduled the last 4 episodes yet... so that's it.
    Actually I was also very upset, but I watched the online version and they didn't cut anything besides the producers logo. It was not 2 minutes, and nothing else than an image of the city and then cut. They could have waited 15 seconds but at least nothing was missing from the story.

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    It's unfair to the viewers to interrupt any program ... unless perhaps it's a repeat, but even then, it's still annoying for those watching for the first time.

    The viewers have no way of knowing what they missed, unless they check online. Why should they have to check online? Well, perhaps because the networks can't be trusted to please their viewers. Why can't you watch TV to escape from the real world?

    Did OJ escape from prison in a Ford Bronco? No, but even if he did, that's what the news channels are for. The majority of Americans have cable/satellite TV, but even if they didn't, they probably use social media to keep up with court cases or whatever else they are interested in.

    We have so many TV channels and alternative ways to get our news, that there's no need for networks to interrupt programming for breaking news that can wait until the next day.

    If you're not interested in 666 Park Avenue, why the "hell" would you be watching ABC to see any breaking news announcements? Who's sitting there waiting for a verdict to be announced while watching the major networks? Nobody, except for perhaps a few cord cutters without a radio, or Internet access. Why would the networks care about them? They don't care, but they get caught up in the race to be first to report the breaking news stories. If the other guys are doing it, we have to do it too. No you don't, but since they're all idiots, they can't help themselves.

    The local news will mention the really important news for each region, so you don't need a brief announcement by ABC or any other network for that matter.

    Stay tuned to ABC ... We will interrupt programming for the George Zimmerman verdict.

    They might run a scroll for the entire evening, just because they're uncaring idiots.

    This just in ... A serial killer is on the loose ... We'll tell you where the killer was last spotted ... After this commercial break ... Stay tuned!

    The networks don't want you to tune to other stations to search for breaking news, so they like to interrupt programming to make these announcements, knowing full well that most people are not going to stop watching television just because they might be temporarily annoyed by these interruptions.
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    Since ABC likes to cut out about 15 seconds of (generally insignificant) content before each commercial break (as they do with Rookie Blue, etc.), the Zimmerman announcement was most likely placed at the END of their TV broadcast of 666 Park Avenue. Had there not been an announcement, the final 15 seconds would most likely still not have been shown by ABC (only the ABC online version would be complete). 45 additional seconds of 666 Park Avenue content was also most likely snipped from the earlier portion of the broadcast, so that an extra 15 second spot can be added during each of the three previous commercial breaks.

    This just in . . .

    http://tvline.com/2013/07/13/666-par...p-how-it-ends/
    [666 Park Avenue episode recap ... SPOILER ALERT]

    For the record, as the credits rolled at 10:59, the local ABC affiliate cut into the feed with an update on the George Zimmerman verdict, but it appeared as though the final dialogue in the 666 Park Avenue finale had been uttered. I’ll rewatch the ending on ABC.com when it posts and let you know if there’s any update.

    [UPDATE: The NY ABC affiliate merely cut off a shot of Henry touching Jane's stomach and looking down with wonder, then as eerie music cued up, the camera zoomed out from the happy couple to a shot of the Drake and the NYC skyline.]
    Case closed. For ABC it was business as usual, but this time, because of the Zimmerman announcement, it looked like ABC jumped in with the announcement a few seconds too early ... even though it didn't. I watched the final episode online, months ago, and did remember the final shot of the stomach touching and skyline. It shouldn't have been cut from the broadcast, but unsuspecting viewers are often clueless as to what the networks snip from their broadcasts.

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    More insignificant news you can't use ...

    I remember back in the 80's and 90's, Canadian broadcasts would cut out the first and last few seconds before each commercial break -- generally insignificant content, but sometimes even dialogue was edited out to save time (I often compared the uncut Satellite wild feeds and the later American network broadcasts to see what the Canadian channels edited out).

    Laurie Brown (CBC radio, etc.) once mentioned that she used to be responsible for deciding what scenes would be cut from various television episodes to keep the running times within the prearranged limits. In some cases, scenes with major dialogue were removed from the Canadian broadcast versions (I noticed a Seinfeld dentist scene was heavily edited from the Canadian version).

    And of course, if a celebrity suddenly dies, a scroll will usually appear during broadcasts to let viewers know where they can get more detailed information. ABC might tell its viewers to watch Nightline, and Global might tell its viewers to tune into the late local news, or Entertainment Tonight Canada.

    If the scrolls are placed at an appropriate time during the broadcasts (and if they don't cover up words or important images), it might not be such a bad idea, but the extra onscreen clutter is often too distracting to be of any use and tends to anger me.
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