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    Fxx Canada

    Some interesting news came out today Rogers will launch Fxx Canada in Jan 2014.

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    Interesting news indeed. Looks like Rogers is trying to capitalize on the launch of the US service.

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    What's the point ?

    Fox splits FX's dramas and comedies on two seperate channels and dumps "Ultimate Fighter" and other sports on the new Fox Sports 1 (was Speed). It's a bizarre move, but they had to recycle Speed and Soccer channels due to loss of contract, while FuelTV was some kind of "UFC channel, 20 hours a day".

    FX Canada is treated as a "canadian superstation" by some service providers (example : http://www.videotron.com/residential...super-stations ), but yet, their schedule is filled with fillers you find on Citytv such as "Murdoch Mysteries", "Da Vinci's Inquest" and "30 Rock", so they have PLENTY of space on the schedule to fill in all of FXX's comedies lineup. There's no need to launch a seperate channel.

    Edit: After years of bad scheduling of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia on Showcase, FX Canada finally picked it up : http://www.rogersmediatv.ca/pr_detail.php?id=886
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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    What's the point ?

    Fox splits FX's dramas and comedies on two seperate channels and dumps "Ultimate Fighter" and other sports on the new Fox Sports 1 (was Speed). It's a bizarre move, but they had to recycle Speed and Soccer channels due to loss of contract, while FuelTV was some kind of "UFC channel, 20 hours a day".

    FX Canada is treated as a "canadian superstation" by some service providers (example : http://www.videotron.com/residential...super-stations ), but yet, their schedule is filled with fillers you find on Citytv such as "Murdoch Mysteries", "Da Vinci's Inquest" and "30 Rock", so they have PLENTY of space on the schedule to fill in all of FXX's comedies lineup.
    Up to now i would agree with you but with Fx Canada picking up 11 new series so i think we will see far less fillers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottawasnowdog View Post
    Up to now i would agree with you but with Fx Canada picking up 11 new series so i think we will see far less fillers.
    Wrong.
    As of today, only "The Bridge" and "Fargo" have been ordered to series.

    Everything else (Tyrant, The Strain, Chozen, etc.) are PILOT orders from the american FX. The pilots are still in development state and still need to be reviewed and can swing both ways : if the pilot is satisfying enough, it will get a series order, otherwise they can be rejected. It does NOT mean all of those pilots will make it on the air.

    Noteworthy, FX Canada hasn't ordered any original canadian series, but expect reruns of Seed and Package Deal to pop up sometime this fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    Wrong.
    As of today, only "The Bridge" and "Fargo" have been ordered to series.

    Everything else (Tyrant, The Strain, Chozen, etc.) are PILOT orders from the american FX. The pilots are still in development state and still need to be reviewed and can swing both ways : if the pilot is satisfying enough, it will get a series order, otherwise they can be rejected. It does NOT mean all of those pilots will make it on the air.

    Noteworthy, FX Canada hasn't ordered any original canadian series, but expect reruns of Seed and Package Deal to pop up sometime this fall.
    It does not mean they will all make it but a good amount of them could.

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    The US version of FXX starts in September, but Rogers needs an extra 4 months to prepare its new Not On Bell commercials, so a January launch was necessary.

    Bell will counter with the launch of a second Book channel in February ... Bookie ... which will eventually be rebranded as The Gambling Channel.
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    Rogers should launch FX Movie Channel (re-brand of Fox Movie Channel) instead of FXX. As others have pointed out, there is plenty of room in the FX Canada schedule to air whatever original series FXX will have. I caught a bit of FX when it was on FP on Shaw Direct, its not very good IMO. It airs a lot of Canadian series like Da Vinci's Inquest continuously and the same few movies over and over again. It seems the trend these days is to launch tons of channels each one with a few original programs and lots of filler junk to round out the schedule. I don't know why these services are called 'specialty channels', there is nothing special about them IMO.

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    4 months later... well, what a bummer.

    Except for FX's original programming (except Anger Management and non-shelf SoA), the channel is still filled with the typical Citytv fillers.

    There's no non-FX exclusivities, there's no new acquisitions, there's no other catalog programming other than those used for Citytv, there are no canadian movie financed by Rogers fund... the schedule is dull outside of FX originals. They give you no reason to watch the channel otherwise.

    So if they launch a 2nd FX channel and move the comedies there, the current FX will be home of 11 hours per day of Murdoch Mysteries and 11 hours per day of Da Vinci's Inquest. It's ridiculous.
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    Off Season: The Lex Morrison Story (TV series that aired August 6th till early September or late August, I think) and Crawlspace (2013, the TV series with Lori Loughlin, NOT the 2012 movie of the same name) appear to be two exclusive FX Canada TV series.

    There's no sign of either of them online for streaming or downloading, and many listings for Lori Loughlin's Crawlspace assume that it's a movie, even though Zap2It lists it as a five-episode mini-series, and the Rogers page has each episode listed as 30 minutes.

    Those two FX Canada series are barely mentioned online, almost as if they don't exist, even though they do.

    http://www.rogersmediatv.ca/pr_detail.php?id=915
    [Off Season: The Lex Morrison Story is mentioned]

    http://vod.shaw.ca/details/166179/Of...rrison%20Story
    [Shaw On Demand ... The Lex Morrison Story]

    http://optikonthego.telus.com/tv-on-...-s1-ep-04.html
    [Terlus Optik On Demand ... The Lex Morrison Story]

    http://www.rogersmedia.com/crawlspace-0
    [Crawlspace ... FX Canada Exclusive? ... Aired in July, I believe)

    http://www.beyondhollywood.com/somet...gs-crawlspace/
    [Crawlspace 2013 trailer and info ... But I say that it's a TV series, Not a movie]

    I'm still waiting for FX Canada 2.
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    It seems Rogers has a whole slew of Channels licensed by the CRTC, they have 2 retro channels(Gold & epic Tv), a few Lifetyle Channels and mystery Channels (like Puzzle) and I sort of wonder if Rogers is gonna use either as their own brandings...I still wonder what the future holds for G4 canada now that G4 in the States is Esquire?!!! A Fox Movie Channel Canada would be something nice as well!!! And we do need some retro brought back into canada like MeTV or TVLand now that Deja View and Comedy Gold are now way passe'!!! Guess we'll just have to wait and see as I say!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokerFace View Post
    Off Season: The Lex Morrison Story (TV series that aired August 6th till early September or late August, I think) and Crawlspace (2013, the TV series with Lori Loughlin, NOT the 2012 movie of the same name) appear to be two exclusive FX Canada TV series.
    Excusive ? Last spring, Crawlspace was in the Citytv app, cut in many 5-minutes parts, but at the moment I noticed it, only the last two episodes were available.
    So, it's a TV broadcast exclusive only.
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    g4 in the states is actually no longer changing to esquire they decided to rebrand the style network instead

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    Ah, so Crawlspace is like The Booth at the End. Both available Online for a limited time and then the full season on FX Canada.

    Wow. The low-rated Style Network is being rebranded and G4 is left with reruns of crap. Reminds me of Canadian TV.
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    Rogers Media Announces Launch of New Premium Specialty Channel FXX, April 1

    – FXX joins FX Canada in delivering acclaimed original scripted FX series, acquired movies and series, and original Canadian programs –
    – Free preview of FXX will be available via select distributors until June 30 –
    – FXX to broadcast new animated comedy Chozen, from the creators of Eastbound & Down, and new limited drama series Fargo, starring Billy Bob Thornton –

    PASADENA, CA (January 14, 2014) Furthering its commitment to delivering world-class content, Rogers Media announced today that new premium specialty channel FXX will launch in Canada on April 1. As the younger-skewing funnier extension of FX Canada, FXX will deliver premium programming to Canadian audiences, including envelope-pushing FX original scripted series, acquired movies and series, and original Canadian programs. The announcement was made today from the Television Critics Association tour in Pasadena.

    Mirroring its U.S. counterpart with a rebellious roster of buzz-worthy series that define the FX brand, FXX will be available on free preview via select distributors until June 30. Additionally, all of FXX’s original prime-time content will be available for multiplatform distribution. Full broadcast details to be announced at a later date.

    “With the tremendous success of FX Canada over the last two years, extending the brand with the launch of FXX is a natural progression for Rogers Media as we continue to deliver unmatched, exceptional, and exclusive programming to our audiences across the country,” said Scott Moore, President, Broadcast, Rogers Media. “Our strong partnership with FX Networks has allowed us to broadcast world-class content to our Canadian audiences through FX Canada, and we are proud to further strengthen this relationship with FXX.”

    Targeting the coveted Adults 18-34 demo, FXX is the destination for non-traditional content that is irreverent, witty, and subversive with hit comedies such as It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The League, Wilfred, Legit,andAli G: Rezurection, from Sacha Baron Cohen, featuring new content and previously unseen episodes of Da Ali G Show. Among the original series debuting on the channel are Chozen, an animated comedy from the creators of Eastbound & Down, which follows a white rapper looking for redemption following a prison sentence; and Canadian-filmed Fargo, based on the Coen Brothers' Oscar®-winning crime drama of the same name, which chronicles an all-new “true crime” story and stars Oscar winner Billy Bob Thornton.

    As previously announced, the Rogers Media partnership agreement with FX Networks ensures that any new original FX programs produced by FX Productions or Twentieth Century Fox Television will air on FXX and FX Canada. With an aggressive slate of content currently in development, both FXX and FX Canada combined will offer hundreds of hours of original and exclusive FX programming.

    “The creative team at FX Networks has a world-renowned reputation for producing unparalleled content, and with the launch of FXX, viewers can expect even more provocative programming as the development slate ramps up in the months ahead,” said Hayden Mindell, Vice President of Programming and Content, Rogers Media. “We look forward to delivering new and established hits on FXX and the existing FX Canada channel.”

    FX Canada is one of the fastest growing digital channels in the country, and has experienced a 148 per cent audience growth in prime time among P2+ since its launch in October 2011.* Most recently, the success of headlining series American Horror Story: Coven has catapulted, becoming the most-watched digital program in fall 2013, and peaked with its highest audience ever on October 23rd.**

    *Source: BBM Canada, Total Canada, Fall 2013 (9/9/13-12/15/13) vs. launch (10/31/11-12/18/11), P2+
    **Source: BBM Canada, Total Canada, 10/23/1; Fall 2013: 9/9/2013-12/15/203, P2+, rank of programs on CDN Digital Eng stations

    About FXX
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    Source : http://www.rogersmediatv.ca/pr_detail.php?id=983
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    So the much rumoured FXX Canada is finally launching... on April Fools Day?!

    They barely have enough programming for FX Canada and now they decide to launch a second FX channel?! Of course, in the Canadian broadcasting system they don't need tons of programming, under the current packaging system all you need is a few quality shows, some filler and VOILA! you got yourself a specialty channel! :applouse:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDN Viewer View Post
    So the much rumoured FXX Canada is finally launching... on April Fools Day?!

    They barely have enough programming for FX Canada and now they decide to launch a second FX channel?! Of course, in the Canadian broadcasting system they don't need tons of programming, under the current packaging system all you need is a few quality shows, some filler and VOILA! you got yourself a specialty channel! :applouse:
    What people want is top level shows and if that means you have 10-12 hours of repeats most would be fine with that look at Fx American Horror and The Strain those two alone people would pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottawasnowdog View Post
    What people want is top level shows and if that means you have 10-12 hours of repeats most would be fine with that look at Fx American Horror and The Strain those two alone people would pay for.


    I agree with you. The draw of the channel is the exclusive FX original programming. Most people don’t watch 12 hours of TV, let alone the same channel, all day. If you like the FX original series then FX Canada is a channel you will want. Of course Rogers is going to air Citytv’s cancon and U.S. programming on FX Canada, this programming has already been paid for and it makes sense to air it on FX Canada.

    This is yet another reason why pick and pay wont work in English Canada, even channels like FX Canada that don’t have a very strong 24/7 schedule still have a few shows that people want to watch. It’s very possible to only watch a few shows but watch several channels. A model where each channel costs more on its own is not going to be very appealing to people who only watch a few shows on certain channels like FX Canada. The ratings prove this. FX Canada is nowhere near a top ranked digital channel, but they have the #1 digital program in Canada, and FX Canada isn't alone here. Channels like MTV, E!, M3, Much, etc.. do very poorly when it comes to their 24/7 schedule but they have a few hits that do really well.

    In the other thread, InMontreal is claiming FX Canada is asking for an unreasonable price, I think he's wrong and he is only basing this on the fact that it's more expensive in Videotron's pick and pay and because Bell still doesn't carry it. When FX Canada first launched, it looks like Rogers asked for a unrealistically high price as it was almost exclusively on Rogers for quite some time (and by the way, this is another example of Rogers unrealistic expectations, they expected wide carriage at launch and spent money on advertising campaigns in Western markets even though the channel was not available on western providers) but they eventually gave in and the channel was finally picked up by the vast majority of BDU's, except Bell. If the price Rogers was asking for was still unreasonable FX Canada wouldn't be available on all major providers except Bell. Rogers had no leverage as they were stuck paying for the FX content deal and very few providers were carrying the service, as a national service it needed carriage on most providers to survive and the option of lower carriage fees was better than no carriage fees and no carriage on most providers.

    Bell doesn't carry FX Canada because it's owned by Rogers. Bell is like this with lots of channels that compete with Bell Media channels (once again proving how the useless anti-consumer 3:1 rule does not stop BDU's from acting anti-competitive). They don't carry Shaw's Nat Geo Wild because it competes with Animal Planet, or BC1 because it competes with CTV News Channel, or how they only carry 3 HD Global stations while carrying 10 or so CTV HD stations. Yet when a new channel launches designed to compete against Shaw's Food Network, Bell is the first and only provider (besides Eastlink) to offer it. That's just how Bell operates. If Bell didn’t own any drama channels or didn’t own Bell Media they would without a doubt carry FX Canada. What’s ironic is Bell Media by far has the most problems renewing agreements of their channels with independent providers, and a lot of HD simulcasts of Bell Media channels aren’t available on many providers.
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    This is yet another reason why pick and pay wont work in English Canada, even channels like FX Canada that don’t have a very strong 24/7 schedule still have a few shows that people want to watch.
    No, its another reason why pick n' pay is needed and demonstrates very clearly what is wrong with the current system. The packaging system allows broadcasters to string together channels without having a strong schedule, it has made them complacent and allows them to make money without really earning it. Under a pick n' pay system they will have to ensure that they have quality programming and that the schedule is not comprised many of repeats or cancon filler- if it is they will find themselves with very few subscribers.

    What people want is top level shows
    Exactly, that is why more and more people are flocking to online services that allow them to access only the shows they want to watch, instead of having to subscribe to a full channel to watch only 1 or 2 specific shows. TV channels are a relict of the past, the future is allow about content, accessing episodes or full seasons of your favourite shows whenever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDN Viewer View Post
    No, its another reason why pick n' pay is needed and demonstrates very clearly what is wrong with the current system. The packaging system allows broadcasters to string together channels without having a strong schedule, it has made them complacent and allows them to make money without really earning it. Under a pick n' pay system they will have to ensure that they have quality programming and that the schedule is not comprised many of repeats or cancon filler- if it is they will find themselves with very few subscribers.



    Exactly, that is why more and more people are flocking to online services that allow them to access only the shows they want to watch, instead of having to subscribe to a full channel to watch only 1 or 2 specific shows. TV channels are a relict of the past, the future is allow about content, accessing episodes or full seasons of your favourite shows whenever you want.
    Your not going to find any channel that is 100% first run as with Fxx and Fx under pick and pay they would be fine in part because the shows they do have is what people want.

 

 

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