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    Time Warner Temporarily Removes CBS in NY, LA

    Time Warner Temporarily Removes CBS in Major Cities
    By BILL CARTER
    Published: July 30, 2013

    CBS stations were temporarily removed from cable systems in millions of homes in major cities — including New York and Los Angeles — about midnight on Monday, after protracted negotiations between CBS and Time Warner Cable over fees collapsed.

    But after an exchange of recrimination-filled statements, and less than a half-hour of cable interruption, the cable company announced that it had halted the blackout of the stations at CBS’s request.

    The mercurial series of events followed a daylong negotiation, which was full of fits and starts. The two sides negotiated all day and night Monday, after weeks of public posturing over which side was being more unreasonable in its demands over what are known as retransmission fees. Throughout Monday night, a series of one-hour extensions in the talks seemed to portend that an agreement was near.

    But at about midnight Eastern time, the talks broke down, and Time Warner announced it would drop CBS shows, like its summer hit “Under the Dome,” from the homes of millions of Time Warner Cable subscribers. In addition, Time Warner Cable said it would remove the Showtime pay cable channel, home of series like “Homeland,” along with the other cable channels owned by CBS, including TMC, Flix and Smithsonian.

    In statements, each side blamed the other. Time Warner Cable said, “The outrageous demands for fees by CBS Corporation have forced Time Warner Cable to remove several of its networks and broadcast stations from our customers’ lineups.” It called CBS’s fee demands “out of line and unfair,” and added, “Sooner or later CBS will threaten others and go dark.”

    In its early statement, CBS said, “In spite of all our efforts to hammer out a fair agreement, Time Warner Cable has dropped CBS and Showtime from its channel lineup effective midnight. Meanwhile, they continue to engage in a public campaign of disinformation and voodoo mathematics (featuring wildly inflated percentages) while doggedly restating their positions.”

    CBS predicted a settlement would eventually be reached but noted the steps it would take to put pressure to make an agreement. “CBS remains resolute in the pursuit of fair compensation for our programming and will use the full resources available to us to make sure that Time Warner Cable subscribers are aware of its shortsighted, anti-consumer strategy.”

    Time Warner Cable also stressed that CBS shows could still be seen on TVs with antennas, and at cbs.com.

    Around 5 a.m. on Tuesday, Time Warner Cable said that a new deadline of 5 p.m. Friday was in place.

    The move to drop the CBS stations was unusual because in numerous recent cases, warring sides from cable and broadcasters have struck last-minute deals to avoid any interruption of service.

    But Time Warner Cable had made clear it intended to limit the fee increases to substantially less than what CBS was demanding. Time Warner Cable has put the increase at 600 percent, a figure that CBS executives described as laughably inflated and wrong. Though no official numbers were publicly discussed, one executive familiar with CBS’s negotiating position put the increase that CBS was demanding at 20 to 25 percent.

    The retransmission fees are actually tied to local stations. Cable systems are being asked to pay for the right to carry those stations on their systems. In the past, broadcast networks were content with only guarantees of carriage by cable companies.

    But broadcasters, with the CBS president, Leslie Moonves, a leading figure, have in recent years pushed hard to create the same kind of secondary revenues stream – subscribers’ fees – that cable networks enjoy. And the broadcasters have had increasing success.

    With that success has come more opposition from cable outlets, which have balked at paying similar fees to broadcast stations that they pay to cable networks, even though in most cases, the broadcast stations are far more watched by their customers.

    In a few cases, these showdowns have resulted in extended blackouts of stations in homes where viewers pay cable fees for their television service. That occurred three years ago, in a standoff between Cablevision and the Fox network.

    CBS has never before had such an impasse result in the displacement of its stations off a cable system. Mr. Moonves said earlier on Monday in Los Angeles that he was reluctant to take that step but would if necessary.

    Time Warner Cable is taking a risk in suspending CBS stations, but it is counting on being able to convince customers that their monthly fees will rise if the broadcaster wins on its demands for hefty increases.

    CBS’s timing in this dispute leaves the network in a somewhat more vulnerable position, because other than “Dome” and the reality program “Big Brother,” it does not have a deep store of shows vital to viewers this summer.

    But if the dispute were to drag on, the prospect of viewers’ losing access to N.F.L. games may become a crucial source of leverage for the network.

    Source : http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/31/bu...arner-cbs.html
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    http://www.northjersey.com/news/2175....html?page=all

    Time Warner Cable wouldn't comment on what kind of fee it's paying CBS to carry its stations now, but Justin Nielson, senior analyst for SNL Kagan, a media-industry data provider in Monterey, California, estimated it was 30 cents to 40 cents per subscriber, per month. CBS is reportedly seeking an increase ranging from $1 to $2, Nielson said. In major markets, stations owned by broadcasters such as CBS are averaging $1 per subscriber, per month, he said.
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    CBS O&O 14 stations, accounts for maybe half of the country population.
    1) NY, 2) LA, 3) Chicago, 4) Philadelphia, 5) Dallas, 6) Boston, 11) Detroit, 15) Minneapolis, 16) Miami, 18) Denver, 20) Sacramento, 23) Pittsburgh and 26) Baltimore.

    "Time Warner Cable serves customers in the following 29 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin."

    So, if you count 1$ per cable/satellite subscriber per month for CBS... that's a LOT of money to be made on TOP of top-rated advertisement revenues for the top-rated network with the most watched shows. It's always best to not implicate subscribers into the companies negociation problems, but still, the subscriber ends up with loss of services, and after that, regardless how long it takes and how much they settled, the subscriber will ALWAYS end up see a cable bill increase.

    Heh, just a few years ago, public and private conventional canadian broadcasters wanted to collect 50 cents per subscriber per month, bumping basic cable/satellite bill to a whooping 5$ to 10$ extra per month depends on the area, and TVViewer was convinced that no service provider would forward that bill to the customer. Now that the major private networks belongs to cable providers with record-breaking profits, they can redirect part of these profits into their own broadcast network and keep it more simple to paying customers.
    "It's not a rerun if you haven't watched it yet." (© 2010 by TVViewer)
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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    Heh, just a few years ago, public and private conventional canadian broadcasters wanted to collect 50 cents per subscriber per month, bumping basic cable/satellite bill to a whooping 5$ to 10$ extra per month depends on the area, and TVViewer was convinced that no service provider would forward that bill to the customer. .

    This is not true. InMontreal has no idea how much broadcasters wanted and how much cable bills would increase. Once again, he is posting about something he knows nothing about.

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    To add insult to injury...

    Raycom Media Stations Go Dark On Dish Network Due To Retransmission Dispute

    By DAVID LIEBERMAN, Financial Editor | Thursday August 1, 2013 @ 1:58pm EDT

    The impasse in contract negotiations left Dish Network customers unable to watch programming from Raycom Media‘s 53 stations in 36 markets beginning at midnight. The broadcaster owns or controls ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, CW, and MyNetworkTV affiliates in cities including Cleveland, Toledo, Honolulu, Tucson, Baton Rouge, West Palm Beach, Louisville, and Memphis. The issue? Money, of course. Dish “has offered to pay Raycom the same rates as our primary competitors; yet Raycom has stalled negotiations, refusing to accept that fair offer,” says Director of Programming Sruta Vootukuru. Raycom counters that it has agreements “with nearly every distributor in our markets, but to date Dish Network has refused to enter into an agreement with us.” Dish accounts for about 15% of Raycom’s viewers, according to data from SNL Kagan.

    http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/dish...stations-dark/
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    LOL.

    In the KCBD (NBC Lubbock, Texas) commentary, vice president and general manager of KCBD tells the viewers to "just go to your favourite Internet search engine and type in Dish Network Worst Company in America, and you will see just how unreasonable Dish can be."

    http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/01/d...-cbs-blackout/
    [KCBD video commentary]

    Let me Google that for you:

    Hmmm. Dish Network tops the list as the worst company to work for in America, partially based on only 346 Dish employee reviews (Dish has about 34,000 employees). The 346 Dish employees that provided reviews are probably now washing dishes at various local restaurants until they appreciate how lucky they are to be enslaved by Dish.

    Slavery is a terrible thing to waste ... At Dish Network, our slaves are worked harder than the law allows. However, since we are above the law, we will continue to do as we please. Suck on that, KCBD!

    http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/08...or-in-america/
    [Aug 2012: The 11 Worst Companies To Work For In America]

    http://www.mediabistro.com/prnewser/...#disqus_thread
    [Dish employees spew hatred for the company]
    Last edited by PokerFace; 08-01-2013 at 06:22 PM. Reason: added link for the KCBD commentary
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    No Time Warner/CBS deal was reached. CBS and other channels pulled off the air ... plus CBS Internet-streaming access blocked for some.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-575...es-fall-short/

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/cbs...e-again_b99399
    Last edited by PokerFace; 08-03-2013 at 02:47 AM. Reason: Raycom/Dish dispute is still unsettled
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