2014: Canada's Top Shows

[TVViewer]

NATIONAL TOP 30 SHOWS FOR OCT 6th - 12th

1. The Big Bang Theory (CTV)
2. The Flash (CTV)
3. Gotham (CTV)
4. Marvel's Agents of SHIELD (CTV)
5. Castle (CTV)
6. NCIS (Global)
7. Criminal Minds (CTV)
8. How To Get Away With Murder (CTV)
9. Survivor (Global)
10. NCIS New Orleans (Global)
11. Person of Interest (CTV)
12. The Blacklist (Global)
13. The Amazing Race (CTV)
14. Grey's Anatomy (CTV)
15. Bones (Global)
16. Hawaii Five-0 (Global)
17. Blue Bloods (CTV)
18. Arrow (CTV)
19. Forever (CTV)
20. CSI (CTV)
21. Chicago Fire (Global)
22. CTV Evening News (CTV)
23. Hockey Night in Canada Prime East (CBC)
24. Scorpion (City)
25. Once Upon a Time (CTV)
26. NCIS Los Angeles (Global)
27. Stalker (Global)
28. Saving Hope (CTV)
29. The Big Bang Theory (CTV)
30. Law and Order SVU (CTV)

[InMontreal]

NATIONAL TOP 30 SHOWS FOR OCT 6th - 12th

Interesting facts :
- Forever in pre-release on CTV and Scorpion in simsub on City performs better than simsubbed Sleepy Hollow on Global, which after 3 episodes, made it once in the Top 30, its season premiere.
- The Superhero shows performs very well on CTV, The CW has two shows there.
- The Amazing Product Placement used to be in the Top 5, but since its move to fridays, it's lower.
- Only CBC Hockey made it there, Top 23, I think it was a Toronto Leafs game. It would be interesting to know the numbers for hockey games for City.

[TVViewer]

- Only CBC Hockey made it there, Top 23, I think it was a Toronto Leafs game.

Toronto Maple Leaf games are typically the only non-playoff games that bring in huge national ratings, and for now Rogers is putting those on CBC so expect only CBC's HNIC broadcasts to rank among the top 30. That being said, it will be harder for it to make the top 30 now since Rogers is airing games at the same time on several channels which is splitting the audience (last year's CBC HNIC first Saturday game ranked as the #3 most watched show for the week, had it got the same ratings as it did last year it would have ranked as the #11 most watched show the week above as several CTV and Global shows are up from last year). CBC's HNIC broadcast this past Saturday already lost about 200,000 from the week before (if it got this week's ratings last week it would have ranked #29 as opposed to #23)

What's probably the most concerning for Rogers is the fact that not only did they not even increase the Saturday night audience by airing a bunch of games on a bunch of channels, but the first Saturday night game on all Rogers channels combined is lower than the first Saturday night Hockey Night in Canada Game on CBC from last year (14% lower, which is about the same decline for the first weeknight game vs last year)

It would be interesting to know the numbers for hockey games for City

City did have the Toronto Maple Leafs on Sunday October 12th and pulled in over 1 million viewers but did not rank among the top 30. Last Sunday's Rogers Hometown Hockey on City pulled in around 407,000 viewers with Calgary Flames vs Winnipeg Jets, Saturday night HNIC on City pulled in around 661,000 viewers with Montreal Canadians vs Colorado.

[PokerFace]

CBC also doesn't rerun the Saturday Night NHL games like it has done in the past (not sure how that affects the current ratings). That's one of the annoying things about the new contract.

[SportsFan]

HNIC on CBC had 1.58 million viewers the first Saturday night of the season. Combined, the early games had viewership of 2.23 million.

The Sunday night Leafs game was City's third highest rating ever.

[InMontreal]

Toronto Maple Leaf games are typically the only non-playoff games that bring in huge national ratings, and for now Rogers is putting those on CBC so expect only CBC's HNIC broadcasts to rank among the top 30. That being said, it will be harder for it to make the top 30 now since Rogers is airing games at the same time on several channels which is splitting the audience

I remember now that some saturday nights, the Canadiens game was airing on CBC Montreal, Atlantic, and Ottawa (if Senators were off), while CBC Toronto aired the Leafs game, followed at 10pm by the west coast game (Vancouver, Calgary or Edmonton). All those 7pm ET games counted as one by the BBM ratings system. Since Rogers took over NHL rights, saturday night CBC games are national, and City games are national, they cannot be counted as one.

[TVViewer]

NATIONAL TOP 30 SHOWS FOR OCT 13th - 19th

1. The Big Bang Theory (CTV)
2. Criminal Minds (CTV)
3. Gotham (CTV)
4. Castle (CTV)
5. The Flash (CTV)
6. Marvel's Agents of SHIELD (CTV)
7. NCIS (Global)
8. NCIS New Orleans (Global)
9. CSI (CTV)
10. How To Get Away With Murder (CTV)
11. Survivor (Global)
12. Grey's Anatomy (CTV)
13. The Amazing Race (CTV)
14. Blue Bloods (CTV)
15. Person of Interest (CTV)
16. Bones (Global)
17. Hawaii Five-0 (Global)
18. The Blacklist (Global)
19. Forever (CTV)
20. Once Upon a Time (CTV)
21. Stalker (Global)
22. Scorpion (City)
23. Arrow (CTV)
24. CTV Evening News (CTV)
25. Chicago Fire (Global)
26. Saving Hope (CTV)
27. NCIS Los Angeles (Global)
28. Madam Secretary (Global)
29. The Good Wife (Global)
30. The Big Bang Theory (CTV)

[PokerFace]

I'm not watching the current season of The Voice (and apparently I'm not the only one skipping it), but I'm still rather surprised that it's not in the Top 30. Even though it's on CTV 2, I still find it hard believe that it's fallen so low in the ratings. Once it gets closer to the end, I assume that's when CTV will pick it up, and then The Voice will crack the top 30.

I completely ignore many of those Top 30 shows, but even though I watch Scorpion, I'm also surprised that it hasn't fallen out of the Top 30 by now (especially since City has it).

Top 30 shows I now completely ignore, or almost NEVER peek at:

1. The Big Bang Theory

2. NCIS

3. NCIS New Orleans

4. NCIS Los Angeles

5. CSI

6. Survivor

7. The Amazing Race (any version)

8. Blue Bloods

9. Bones

10. Hawaii Five-O

11. Once Upon a Time

12. Arrow

[TVViewer]

NATIONAL TOP 30 SHOWS FOR OCT 20th - 26th

1. The Big Bang Theory (CTV)
2. Criminal Minds (CTV)
3. The Flash (CTV)
4. Castle (CTV)
5. NCIS (Global)
6. Marvel's Agents of SHIELD (CTV)
7. Gotham (CTV)
8. NCIS New Orleans (Global)
9. How To Get Away With Murder (CTV)
10. CSI (CTV)
11. The Amazing Race (CTV)
12. Person of Interest (CTV)
13. Blue Bloods (CTV)
14. Survivor (Global)
15. The Blacklist (Global)
16. Once Upon a Time (CTV)
17. Grey's Anatomy (CTV)
18. CTV Evening News (CTV)
19. Arrow (CTV)
20. Hawaii Five-0 (Global)
21. Forever (CTV)
22. Chicago Fire (Global)
23. Madam Secretary (Global)
24. NCIS Los Angeles (Global)
25. Scorpion (City)
26. Saving Hope (CTV)
27. CTV National News (CTV)
28. Stalker (Global)
29. Grimm (CTV)
30. Hockey Night in Canada Prime East (CBC)



NATIONAL TOP 30 SHOWS FOR OCT 27th - NOV 2

1. The Big Bang Theory (CTV)
2. Criminal Minds (CTV)
3. The Flash (CTV)
4. NCIS (Global)
5. Castle (CTV)
6. Marvel's Agents of SHIELD (CTV)
7. NCIS New Orleans (Global)
8. Survivor (Global)
9. Once Upon a Time (CTV)
10. The Blacklist (Global)
11. Two and a Half Men (CTV)
12. Blue Bloods (CTV)
13. Bones (Global)
14. Gotham (CTV)
15. Person of Interest (CTV)
16. The Amazing Race (CTV)
17. How To Get Away With Murder (CTV)
18. Elementary (Global)
19. Hawaii Five-0 (Global)
20. CTV Evening News (CTV)
21. Chicago Fire (Global)
22. Arrow (CTV)
23. NCIS Los Angeles (Global)
24. Forever (CTV)
25. Hockey Night in Canada Prime East (CBC)
26. Scorpion (City)
27. Stalker (Global)
28. The McCarthys (CTV)
29. The Millers (CTV)
30. Madam Secretary (Global)

[InMontreal]

NATIONAL TOP 30 SHOWS FOR OCT 27th - NOV 2nd

1. BIG BANG THEORY (CTV) 4414
2. CRIMINAL MINDS (CTV) 2586
3. THE FLASH (CTV) 2522
4. NCIS (Global) 2438
5. CASTLE (CTV) 2432
6. MARVEL AGENTS/SHIELD (CTV) 2408
7. NCIS: NEW ORLEANS (Global) 2236
8. SURVIVOR:SAN JUAN (Global) 2153
9. ONCE UPON A TIME (CTV) 2030
10. THE BLACKLIST (Global) 2028
11. TWO AND A HALF MEN (CTV) 2009
12. BLUE BLOODS (CTV) 2004
13. BONES (Global) 1990
14. GOTHAM (CTV) 1981
15. PERSON OF INTEREST (CTV) 1939
16. AMAZING RACE 25 (CTV) 1933
17. HOW TO GET AWAY/MURD (CTV) 1919
18. ELEMENTARY (Global) 1914
19. HAWAII FIVE-O (Global) 1761
20. CTV EVENING NEWS (CTV M-F) 1701
21. CHICAGO FIRE (Global) 1695
22. ARROW (CTV) 1640
23. NCIS: LOS ANGELES (Global) 1605
24. FOREVER (CTV) 1570
24. HNIC PRIME EAST (CBC) 1570
26. SCORPION (City) 1533
27. STALKER (Global) 1514
28. THE MCCARTHYS (CTV) 1474
29. THE MILLERS (CTV) 1416
30. MADAM SECRETARY (Global) 1368

Original PDF: http://assets.numeris.ca/Downloads/O...(National).pdf

[PokerFace]

The weekly Top 30 TV ratings often include things that I watch, but those Top 30 rated things tend to be the same things every week. Episodic television tends to keep the viewers coming back for more of what they already know they like. One of the problems with the Top 30 TV ratings is that you don't know what channels the viewers (the ones being tracked) have, or even have access to. If you suddenly give free HBO content (for life) to all of those viewers involved in the TV ratings, wouldn't that mean that some HBO content would begin to consistently appear in the Top 30 rated things?

The more content that people have access to (especially for free), the harder it would most likely be to get them to watch the same things each week.

[InMontreal]

If you suddenly give free HBO content (for life) to all of those viewers involved in the TV ratings, wouldn't that mean that some HBO content would begin to consistently appear in the Top 30 rated things?

It is my understanding that HBO is not included in the Numeris Top 30 as it's not ad-supported.
Last summer, when the top 30 had low numbers, the press said a HBO show reached 1 million viewers, but was absent from the Top 30.

[PokerFace]

Ah, that makes sense. I forgot about the commercials, since that's the way I generally watch everything (without commercials).

[TVViewer]

Ah, that makes sense. I forgot about the commercials, since that's the way I generally watch everything (without commercials).

No, he is wrong. Commercial free networks like HBO and Family are not excluded. It's harder for specialty shows to rank among the top 30 nationally due to the time zones. An HBO press release would combine the ratings for both the east and west coast airing while this list would rank both airing separate since they both aired nationally.

Advertisers networks do not care about the top 30 most watched shows in total viewers. They care about the 18-49 and 25-54 demographics. They care about the 18-49 and 25-54 demographics in certain cities. These lists are for the public/media. InMontreal may be solely using these lists to judge which shows are successful, but the networks/advertisers certainly don't.

[TVViewer]

NATIONAL TOP 30 SHOWS FOR NOV 3rd - 9th

1. The Big Bang Theory (CTV)
2. Criminal Minds (CTV)
3. Gotham (CTV)
4. Survivor (Global)
5. The Blacklist (Global)
6. The Amazing Race (CTV)
7. Blue Bloods (CTV)
8. Once Upon a Time (CTV)
9. Arrow (CTV)
10. Bones (Global)
11. Two and a Half Men (CTV)
12. How To Get Away With Murder (CTV)
13. Hawaii Five-0 (Global)
14. CTV Evening News (CTV)
15. Scorpion (City)
16. CTV Movie (CTV)
17. NCIS Los Angeles (Global)
18. Madam Secretary (Global)
19. Elementary (Global)
20. Grey's Anatomy (CTV)
21. The Big Bang Theory (CTV)
22. The Good Wife (Global)
23. Murdoch Mysteries (CBC)
24. Stalker (Global)
25. CTV Evening News Weekend (CTV)
26. Hockey Night in Canada Prime East (CBC)
27. The Millers (CTV)
28. The McCarthys (CTV)
29. Hometown Hockey: Leafs (City)
30. CTV National News (CTV)

[PokerFace]

Ah, those tricky time zone issues make these Top 30 ratings even more useless than they already are.

Wow, Scorpion moved up to #15. How did that happen?

[TVViewer]

Wow, Scorpion moved up to #15. How did that happen?

CTV and Global have a ton of hit shows on Tuesday nights that were pre-empted or repeats due to U.S. election coverage, so some shows ranked higher than usual this week. Also, older viewers love it. Global is typically winning the time slot in 18-49, even in City's strongest market, although even in the 18-49 demo City has reason to be happy since it's doing much better than anyone expected, I don't think anyone expected that this of all shows would be the #1 program on City this fall.

[PokerFace]

I wonder what the average viewer age is for City, Global, CTV and CBC. I would guess that the CBC has the oldest average viewer age, while CTV might have the youngest average viewer age.

http://variety.com/2008/scene/news/t...-50-1117988273
[From 2007/2008 TV season: CBS was oldest in live viewing with a median age of 54.]

According to a study released by Magna Global’s Steve Sternberg, the five broadcast nets’ average live median age (in other words, not including delayed DVR viewing) was 50 last season [2007-08]. That’s the oldest ever since Sternberg started analyzing median age more than a decade ago — and the first time the nets’ median age was outside of the vaunted 18-49 demo.

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http://www.businessweek.com/articles...wers-they-want
[From 2012: CBS has an average viewer age of almost 57 -- Highest of the Networks]

http://www.mediapost.com/publication...e-fastest.html
[From 2014: CBS increases its average viewer age to 58.7, while ABC is close at 56.3]

[InMontreal]

No, he is wrong. Commercial free networks like HBO and Family are not excluded. It's harder for specialty shows to rank among the top 30 nationally due to the time zones. An HBO press release would combine the ratings for both the east and west coast airing while this list would rank both airing separate since they both aired nationally.

I just love how you pull out explanations out of your butt just to discredit everything I say.

Broadcast airings are compiled with the time zone difference and added accordingly (Toronto + Vancouver + Edmonton + Calgary + Winnipeg + ... ) plus 7-day playback. HBO has the east timezone (Bell-Astral) and the west timezone (Corus), It's stupid to count them seperately.

[TVViewer]

I just love how you pull out explanations out of your butt just to discredit everything I say..

I can't discredit someone who has no credibility to begin with. You discredit yourself with everything you post and you have discredited yourself to the point of no return long ago so there is no reason for me to state that what you are saying is wrong if it's actually true. If anyone does take you seriously after all the false information you have stated it's because they don't care that almost everything you post is wrong or because they are some lowlife like "Donovan's Monkey" with obscure views who dislikes me enough that they will favor anyone who disagrees with me regardless if what they are saying is true or not. Those are the only people taking what you say seriously and it clearly doesn't matter to them how many times the info you post is inaccurate, so you can stop worrying about someone trying to "discredit" you.