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    Why Apple Walked Away From TV (For Now)

    Why Apple Walked Away From TV (For Now)

    By Peter Kafka
    December 9, 2015, 10:35 AM PST

    Yes, Apple has walked away from the negotiating table with the TV guys, which means you won’t be getting a subscription TV service from Apple anytime soon.

    And yes, there’s a dispute between Apple and the TV guys about how much Apple should pay the TV guys.

    But there’s a conflict about money in any negotiation. Apple’s beef with the TV Industrial Complex is a bit more nuanced. It’s also a significant one: If Apple gets its way, TV will undergo a significant change, just like the music business did when Apple launched its iTunes store in 2003.

    Industry executives say Apple has spent much of 2015 pushing for a “skinny” bundle of TV channels — limited to perhaps a dozen core networks — delivered over the Web, which would retail for no more than $30.

    So while the price of the individual channels that Apple wants to package has been an issue, it’s the composition of the package itself — which channels go in and which don’t make the cut — that is just as important to both Apple and the programmers, according to sources.

    If Apple gets its way, it means the traditional pay TV package, which averages around 100 channels, will get shrunk by nearly 80 percent. And while TV executives will say they understand that consumers don’t want to pay for channels they don’t watch, all of them will argue that their channels are must-haves.
    Continue reading : http://recode.net/2015/12/09/why-app...om-tv-for-now/

    Frankly, this is getting ridiculous. All of those broadcast companies want to push their other struggling channels by forcing their carriage in groups.

    Up north, Canada, Apple COULD find it easier as the CRTC ease things up with recent decision about skinny basic and unbundling, but faces a bigger problem : Apple becomes a content distributor at the same level as Bell, Shaw, Rogers and Videotron, but doesn't pay for the infrastructure maintenance. Oh, wait, where have I heard this before? Ah yeah, Netflix. Recently, Quebécor cried like a spoiled child because Netflix accounts for 34% of its traffic, so they want Netflix to pay its part on the canadian side.
    Article en français : http://www.lesaffaires.com/secteurs-...uebecor/583756

    And a few years before that, oh yeah, Google and YouTube were the evil ones and those same canadian vertically-integrated conglomerates wanted Google to pay for the bandwidth all the way from their servers to the customer...

    Back to Apple subject, the other problem with canadian channels, it's the content. Since Fox can't get a deal themselves with Apple in the states, I doubt they'll allow any Fox show airing on CTV to be broadcast on Apple TV... so you end up with a black screen... OH FFS !!!
    We had a good run: 2006 to 2020. Thanks for the informations and debates.

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    There was a joke awhile ago that Apple has enough cash on hand that they could bail out Greece without hurting their pocket book. So what's strange is they could easily take over Warner Brothers, Paramount, MGM and Fox and cut the networks off of their programming sources without anyone raising objections. They have a following that would make any politicians or bureaucrat blood run cold if they ever got on the wrong side of Apple, and with all EU and US regulators focusing on Google as the evil one of the world, no one will ever look at Apple when they finish taking over the world. ;)
    "And Now for Something Completely Different..." - John Cleese (Monty Python).

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    On an unrelated note, there's the $4.5 billionnaire Donald Trump running for president, an obvious racist (deport 11 million illegal immigrants, wall on the US/Mexico border, muslims ban), makes ennemies in the medias (NBC dumped him, Fox News anchor feud), but he still unexplicably leads surveys. If elected, third world war begins.

    Any middle-class front-runner for presidency with similar harmful racist speech would get the boot by the political party. But he's still there, because he has money, and obviously pays his whole political campaign out of his own pockets. On the positive side, Trump consequently ruins his own merchandise brand outside of the US.

    We could compare Apple to Bell : They impose themselves, they have a good percentage of market share, take a huge cut on other people's work by not doing much, they can sell your own work for free as a promotion and not pay you, their own products are front and center, and if they blacklist you, you're out.
    We had a good run: 2006 to 2020. Thanks for the informations and debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    ... Donald Trump running for president, an obvious racist (deport 11 million illegal immigrants, wall on the US/Mexico border, Muslim ban), makes enemies in the media (NBC dumped him, Fox News anchor feud), but he still inexplicably leads surveys...
    But what are the late night comedians and their writers going to joke about when the Trumpy The Clown Show gets cancelled?

    It really is hilarious when you hear about some of the fear mongering idiocy they repeat to their base.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8bihhjH3nI

    Actually I would disagree with Maher about the internet. The lies and ridiculousness of those choosing/pretending to believe them are more easily exposed now, and most of the ones eager to believe them would appear to be senior citizens.
    Thankfully the media here has now finally gotten to the point of understanding that Toronto's crackhead former mayor is not worth any attention, and I assume that will eventually happen there too.
    Even then, the US president is not a dictator. There's only so much he can do on his own without the US congress.
    And it's not us, so we could just sit back and laugh!
    Last edited by Donovan's Monkey; 02-21-2016 at 02:29 PM.

 

 

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