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    CHCH Fall 2014 Lineup

    NEW SHOWS TO CHCH - FALL 2014
    Access Hollywood
    Burn Notice
    Cristela (ABC)
    Last Man Standing (ABC) (formerly on City)
    The Simpsons
    Tiny Talent Time

    RETURNING SHOWS
    20/20 (ABC)
    48 Hours (CBS)
    60 Minutes (CBS)
    Bones
    CSI: Miami
    The Originals (The CW)

    Movies

    http://www.chch.com/shows/

    I assume there's going to be announcement or press release issued sometime next week by Channel Zero/CHCH, where we will learn more about what's coming up this fall.

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    Notable shows missing from the list:
    Supernatural
    Hart of Dixie (midseason)
    Wheel of Fortune
    Jeopardy!


    Presumably dropped
    Spin Off (likely cancelled)
    Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (syndicated, but only aired once a week)


    I'm assuming that Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy! will continue running between 7 and 8 weeknights. If they dropped Supernatural, it probably moved back to one of Bell Media's specialty channels like M3 or Space. Too soon to say whether they also dropped Hart of Dixie, since it's not due to return until midseason.

    Interesting that they continue to pick up series that have ended - last year, it was CSI: Miami, this year it's Burn Notice.

    After being dropped by CTV Two and E! last year, Access Hollywood is back on Canadian airwaves - I predicted that CHCH would pick it up last year.

    And in terms of network primetime programs, as expected, they picked up Last Man Standing (dropped by Rogers) and the new sitcom Cristela, both of which are sitcoms, and marking the first time that they have added sitcoms since Channel Zero bought the station.

    The Simpsons - is this going to run daily or only once a week like a lot of the syndicated shows they've acquired?

    Overall, I figured CHCH would get their hands on at least one returning show dropped by City and one new show not already acquired by a Canadian network. Especially with City's decision to drop programming at 10:00pm, I thought CHCH would have taken advantage of this by acquiring more of the remaining new shows as well as returning shows that were dropped.

    On an interesting note, this marks the first time since 2010 that not all of the new U.S. network shows on the fall schedule were picked up by a Canadian network.

    Coincidentally, the shows from that year all ended up getting cancelled after just one season on the air:
    Better With You (ABC sitcom)
    Detroit 187 (ABC drama)
    My Generation (ABC drama)
    Running Wilde (FOX sitcom)


    This year, here are the new shows without a Canadian broadcaster (so far, barring any new updates):
    Jane the Virgin (CW comedy-drama)
    Manhattan Love Story (ABC sitcom)
    Selfie (ABC sitcom)
    Red Band Society (FOX comedy-drama)


    As for the returning shows dropped by a Canadian broadcaster, we have The Biggest Loser (NBC) and Nashville (ABC).

    In the case of the latter, the show has already aired on two networks in as many seasons, first on CTV Two and some of Bell Media's channels then last season on City. Considering that the show has already been dropped by two networks, there was probably no incentive for another Canadian broadcaster to pick it up - perhaps Netflix will distribute it in Canada.
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    Channel Zero's lack of experience really shows with their programming pickups. Although it is good they are moving away from buying CW shows (it's so odd to see a channel that airs so much older skewing news, newsmagazines, and game shows to then also air CW dramas) they don't seem to realize why some of their shows are available in the first place. For example, even though they had nothing to simulcast in the time slot, City did not renew/pickup the ABC Friday comedies and is opting to air comedies out of simulcast in the time slot. Both comedies are distributed by FOX, which Global has an output deal with, and Global is also going with out of simulcast comedies in the time slot instead. So CHCH is picking up a comedy which was barely registering in the ratings on City and scheduling it in the exact same time slot where it will have more comedy competition than ever before as both City and Global will be airing comedies in the hour. If it could barely register on City, will it even register on CHCH with more comedy competition in the time slot? CHCH should be counter-programming against the big networks, and with no network airing drama Fridays at 8:00PM they should have scheduled one of their syndicated dramas there.

    Notable shows missing from the list:
    Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (syndicated, but only aired once a week)
    I never understood this. Why buy a 5 day a week game show and only air 1 episode per week? Perhaps the format changed, but I remember usually contestants wouldn't finish by the end of the 22 minute episode and would continue playing the next day, which would make CHCH's scheduling idiotic as it would take weeks to watch a contestant finish one game. Even if the episodes were self contained (which I don't see how is possible), it still doesn't make any sense. The only reason I can think of why they would do this is because they wanted to stretch one season out over several years, which may sound like a good way to control costs but that only works if viewers are willing to tune in, and I doubt anyone is willing to follow this bizarre once a week schedule.

    I'm assuming that Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy! will continue running between 7 and 8 weeknights.


    The fact that they are not listed under "returning favorites" makes me think they dropped them. I can certainly understand the reason for dropping them (like most game shows, they skew incredibly old, well outside the 18-49 & 25-54 demo advertisers want) but it's another example of how they don't know what they are doing in regards to buying programming. It's not like these were new untested shows, it was well known what their ratings were like when CHCH picked them up.


    After being dropped by CTV Two and E! last year, Access Hollywood is back on Canadian airwaves
    It seems like every year or so they replace a low rated celebrity newsmagazine with another low rated celebrity newsmagazine.


    This year, here are the new shows without a Canadian broadcaster (so far, barring any new updates):
    Jane the Virgin (CW comedy-drama)
    Manhattan Love Story (ABC sitcom)
    Selfie (ABC sitcom)
    Red Band Society (FOX comedy-drama)
    I figured that ABC Studios would be hurt the most by Rogers decision to cut back on Citytv's program spending. Global practically never buys anything from ABC Studios so City was really their only hope of unloading shows CTV passes on.

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    Last year (or the year before?), I occasionally watched Access Hollywood Live on CityTV (I didn't see it listed on any Buffalo channel) at Noon (although I believe it was LIVE at 11am EST), but this year it was moved to 11am on Omni 1. Will it soon move to CHCH, or be dumped? I'm assuming it will be dumped, or perhaps moved to another time.

    The clips from previous Live shows are available on its official website, as well as the full version of the latest episode.

    http://www.accesshollywood.com/acces..._video_2219037
    [Yesterday's episode of AHLive]

    http://www.accesshollywood.com/accesshollywoodlive
    [AHLive clips]
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    TVViewer; CHCH isn't trying to compete with the likes of Global, CTV and City. The shows they buy aren't that expensive. Their main focus is their news programming. Go to almost any business in the Hamilton area during the week; almost all the time the set is tuned to CHCH. They are doing something right. Buying expensive primetime programming is what made them bleed money for years under the ownership of WIC and then Canwest. I don't know exactly what the finances are today but I doubt they are bleeding nearly $30 million year like they did under Canwest.

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    TVViewer; CHCH isn't trying to compete with the likes of Global, CTV and City.
    I'm not saying they should.

    The shows they buy aren't that expensive. Their main focus is their news programming. Go to almost any business in the Hamilton area during the week; almost all the time the set is tuned to CHCH. They are doing something right. Buying expensive primetime programming is what made them bleed money for years under the ownership of WIC and then Canwest. I don't know exactly what the finances are today but I doubt they are bleeding nearly $30 million year like they did under Canwest.
    That doesn't mean they are good at buying programming. The amount of programming they drop every few years is a clear indication that they are not good at picking shows. They wouldn't be dropping shows that are working. Buying the leftovers for cheap doesn't always work out as there is usually a big reason why they are leftovers to begin with. Again, not saying they should be bidding against the big networks for programming, just pointing out that they aren't the best when it comes to which shows they do pick up.

    However, one thing I forgot is that CHCH was likely unaware that both Global and City would be airing comedies in the Friday 8:00PM hour, so their projections for how much success they would have with the ABC comedies would have been better than what they are now. Also, CHCH hasn't confirmed a simulcast, maybe they plan to air them on Saturday nights following Tiny Talent, despite the buzz, I'm not sure how Tiny Talent is going to do, but if it does do well I can see why they would want to hold some of the audience after the show with some comedies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokerFace View Post
    Last year (or the year before?), I occasionally watched Access Hollywood Live on CityTV (I didn't see it listed on any Buffalo channel) at Noon (although I believe it was LIVE at 11am EST), but this year it was moved to 11am on Omni 1. Will it soon move to CHCH, or be dumped? I'm assuming it will be dumped, or perhaps moved to another time.
    Access Hollywood consists of two shows - one is the regular half-hour edition that is a more fast-paced and informative celebrity newsmagazine show like all the other ones including etalk, Entertaiment Tonight, Extra, etc. The other is Access Hollywood Live, an hour-long spinoff which is more of an entertainment style talk show that covers stories and has special guests in studio, but without an audience.

    The half-hour version has previously aired on various CTV affiliates. It was then picked up across the entire CTV network in 2008 before moving to A/CTV Two along with bonus airings on E! until last year.

    The hour-long show debuted in 2010 and the Canadian rights were acquired by Rogers, where it originally aired on City before moving to OMNI. All indications are that Rogers has dropped the rights as it was nowhere to be seen on the Fall master planners for both City and OMNI.

    That being said, I'm not sure if the acquisition of Access Hollywood by CHCH includes either only the regular half-hour edition, Access Hollywood Live, or both shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostjon View Post



    The hour-long show debuted in 2010 and the Canadian rights were acquired by Rogers, where it originally aired on City before moving to OMNI. All indications are that Rogers has dropped the rights as it was nowhere to be seen on the Fall master planners for both City and OMNI..

    At their licence renewals, Rogers stated that it is one of the shows they dropped from OMNI, Rogers also dropped the rights to their syndicated court shows. They also said they dropped "more" shows that they didn't name, I'm assuming they dropped the rights to all of OMNI's talk shows and will just air strip comedies (which they are not able to get rid of as they come with multi-year commitments)

 

 

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